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u.s. representative from Pennsylvania

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Like, before we hand this thing the nuclear codes, I do not want it to be considered. I want to know the damn stuff is right, not polluted with Chinese Communist facts or their alleged version of the facts and that the thing is not going to avoid the humans and avoid, you know, detection and all that stuff.

Scott Perry

u.s. representative from Pennsylvania

At a June 2025 House Oversight hearing, Scott Perry said that before AI is handed the nuclear codes he wants to know that it is right, not polluted with Chinese Communist facts, and that it is not going to avoid humans and detection.

U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania and member of the House Committee on Oversight and Government ReformJune 5, 2025The Federal Government in the Age of Artificial Intelligence, House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform hearing

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P ERRY. So, ma’am, I have a little bit of time left, and I just want to say this. I think, for me, it is beyond consideration. Like, before we hand this thing the nuclear codes, I do not want it to be considered. I want to know the damn stuff is right, not polluted with Chinese Communist facts or their alleged version of the facts and that the thing is not going to avoid the humans and avoid, you know, detection and all that stuff. Madam Chair, I would like to enter into the record or request that be entered into the record, Apollo Research’s report titled, ‘‘Frontier Models are Capable of In-Context Scheming,’’ published on January 16, 2025, and I ask that

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  • The wording is a forceful deployment condition expressed in a hearing, not introduced bill text or a detailed regulatory proposal.
  • 'Hand this thing the nuclear codes' is colloquial and may encompass decision support as well as direct command authority; the transcript does not specify system architecture.

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