For example, we don't want a system of drones, or a swarm of drones, making autonomous, unilateral decisions on taking life or destroying critical infrastructure.
John R. Allen
Retired four-star Marine general; former commander of U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan.
In a podcast published in 2024, John R. Allen said drone systems should not autonomously decide to kill people or destroy critical infrastructure.
Retired U.S. Marine Corps four-star generalPublished October 15, 2024 · date of remarks not establishedLeadership and Legacy: Conversations at the George Washington Presidential Library
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… is about the human role in all of this, and the more pervasive and the faster the character of war moves, the greater the challenge that the human dimension faces in intervening in this process in a way that is consistent with our values. For example, we don't want a system of drones, or a swarm of drones, making autonomous, unilateral decisions on taking life or destroying critical infrastructure. So for us, having a human in the loop, where once that drone, based on intelligence that we have fed it, has gone through the process of target identification and target acquisition, before that drone, as we say, pickles off the Hellfire
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- The page was published on October 15, 2024 and says the series's first six conversations took place from August 2023 through March 2024, but it does not state this interview's date.
- Allen immediately advocated a human-in-the-loop approval before a drone fires, while acknowledging that this could make U.S. forces slower than adversaries.
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